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"Penelope Wheated Bourbon; Quirky Sleep Habits"

• Matt Sommerfield & Phil Stokes • Season 2 • Episode 60

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Step into the world of bourbon, bizarre sleep strategies, and gut health in this uproarious episode that perfectly showcases Matt and Phil's friendship and whiskey knowledge.

We're sipping on Penelope Bourbon's weeded straight bourbon whiskey—a non-chill filtered gem at 95 proof that delivers surprising root beer notes with caramel and brown sugar undertones. At just $35 a bottle, this MGP-produced bourbon earns our enthusiastic stamp of approval and proves that quality doesn't have to break the bank. 

The conversation takes a fascinating detour into the world of MGP (Midwest Grain Products), revealing how this distillery is shifting from primarily supplying other brands to focusing on their own labels like Penelope. We break down bourbon's four-grain composition—corn, wheat, barley, and rye—explaining how each contributes to the complex flavor profile you experience with every sip. For whiskey enthusiasts curious about production processes, this episode offers valuable insights into how your favorite spirits come together.

But the true highlight comes when Matt unveils his elaborate sleep routine, complete with a live demonstration involving multiple sleep masks (including one that resembles a romance novel accessory), a mouth guard for teeth grinding, and cotton gloves for eczema treatment. This hilariously candid segment might have you questioning your own bedtime habits—or perhaps feeling validated that you're not alone in your sleep quirks. Whether you're a bourbon aficionado or simply enjoy genuine conversation peppered with unexpected humor, this episode delivers on all fronts. Like, share, and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts!

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Speaker 1:

Well, phil, I feel like you should say well something. Well, Matt, oh good, I'm going to keep all that in? I doubt it. I feel like we've both been busy. Good start.

Speaker 1:

Your colon certainly has been Look. Oh yeah, that is a part of what we talked about earlier. Mm colon certainly has been Look. Oh yeah, that is a part of what we talked about earlier, yeah, so I had to go to the health food store to see the doctor at the health food store Keep going Like.

Speaker 1:

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. And they had said because I have the eczema on the hands. They said I said look, lady, I've had some issues and some things. You know everybody's got issues, but this is the kind of issue that skunks are moving out of the neighborhood. So you know it's not good, and it tends to be if I have like a beef stick or something just not good. And so she goes, know it's not good, and it tends to be if I have like a beef stick or something just not good, and so she goes.

Speaker 1:

What's not good? The uh, the aroma, the aroma, aroma of a certain uh, response, bodily response that that occurs. Um, when one, what have you has had, when one what have you has had too many beef sticks and there's an occurrence. We're going to say it's an occurrence, how you say flatulence in Spanish, and I'm pretty sure that's French. And so she said, yeah, that makes sense. Why it would be horrifically horrible? Uh, because it's fermenting in your stomach, because you have low stomach acid. How incredibly descriptive of you to say horrendously. Oh, yeah, no, it's real bad. Yeah, did I say horrifically horrific, horrendously horrific, oh, horrendously horrific. Yeah, so it was good. Imagine strangling an already dead animal just to get the waftiness.

Speaker 1:

Whatever thing, whatever's going on, that has crawled up there and died. It has been there for a while. It is making its way out, right, one small, small step for mankind, one small, sometimes one giant leap. For me sleeping in the basement um, air puff at a time. Yeah, one small air puff at a time. You almost didn't make it for this one, this episode. You almost died. I, I wanted to. I know that you said it's gone. It still isn't.

Speaker 1:

I mean, we're in a. There's not a lot of ventilation down here. There's one vent. It's right there. Hi, vent, oh, sweet vent. I did close it actually. It's been closed.

Speaker 1:

So, yeah, there's really not a lot of air circulation. It's kind of like a cloud, like a mist. No, really not a lot of air circulation, it's kind of like a cloud, like a mist. No, it's not a mist, it's not moist. I mean it could be. I guess it depends if it's like how dry was the beef? Stop, okay, talking, please. So anyways, it's disgusting. There's no two ways to make it sound any better than this is. It is just bad. We should we roll the intro or should we talk about it more? No, let's roll the intro. Okay, roll it.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to Whiskey Bits with Matt and Phil, where we sip on everyday whiskeys and find the funny in our everyday lives. It was a good idea to do that. Yeah, I don't think I would have stopped. You got to cut me off. I'll just keep going, to my own detriment. Really, does that smell better? What are we drinking today? Well, I'll tell you what we're not drinking Anything beef related. I still can't believe you went to a health food store to ask about why did my fart stink? No, that's not. I didn't specifically go for that. I was like I think I have gut issues. You know leaky gut, everyone's gut's leaking, okay, and then she told you that you're fermenting like a beer, like a stout, really no, this isn't how things happen.

Speaker 1:

Stout, this is not it, okay, anyway, you know what else is finally aged, but this has aged, really well, all right, this is the penelope bourbon. Oh my gosh, this is, uh, this is straight bourbon whiskey. This is their weeded. Yeah, we did, non-chill filtered. No, chill filtered. Okay, the creme brulee, I don't remember, was that chill, filtered, non-chill? I don't do you care who I. Two weeks ago, we tried, we're kind of, would you know, I know, okay, so I don't even know whatchill, I don't do you care who I. Two weeks ago, we tried, we're kind of, would you know, I know, okay, so I don't even know what I don't remember, I don't remember. Um 95 proof.

Speaker 1:

Uh, this is a four grain. Okay, four grains which can I guess what they are? Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, well, all right, okay, we know, it's weeded, it's's weeded, okay, so it's going to have a higher wheat. So the four grains are Wheat, yeah, barley, okay, crap, that's all the grains that I remember. No, wheat, barley malt, no, malt, malt is how they do. Barley, malted. Barley. Barley is malt. Yeah, wheat, barley, sarsaparilla.

Speaker 1:

Hmm, and have you learned? Corn? Okay, I was going to say have you learned nothing on this podcast? Well, I know there's got to be corn, but is that considered one of the four grains? Yes, okay. So corn, barley, wheat and rye. Okay, did I get it? I think so. All right, I did it. Yeah, I win. I'll read it. What it says here. What does it say? It says nothing about any of that. Oh you, son of a, this is stupid. This was a test and it was not fair. But typically, rye, corn, wheat and barley are very good guesses.

Speaker 1:

You know what I wasn't going to say corn, because I was thinking like a grain. What do you think? Well, like a grass. Oh, what's wheat? It's like a grass. Okay, yeah, corn's just like a big grass. It's like a grass for giants. It's a grain. Okay, all right, good job, no, great job.

Speaker 1:

You know things that start with G grains and geography. I tell you what. Those are the two things that I really struggle with. And girls in high school, that was man, a lot of struggle there Grades, geese, gavels, whenever you're done, oh, go ahead.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so this is one of the MGP products that they make. Okay, so this is an MGP brand. So they don't source it out to somebody who's doing it. This is all done it at mgp. So they say, mgp, we want this mash, bill, these grains, can you make it? No, no. Or is mgp saying here's what we have? No, no, this is. Mgp says we're gonna make some whiskey and we're gonna put a label on it and it's gonna be called penope. This is done all completely in-house, like this is their oh, so Penelope is an MGP brand Brand. Yes, oh, I didn't even know. Oh, okay, yeah, so they source out some of their stuff, right, and then anybody can put their labels on it, okay, and age it elsewhere However they want. Yeah, but these, this, this one is aged there. This is all done.

Speaker 1:

I did not realize that. I thought MGP they were just in the business of creating white dog and sending it out. No, and in fact, in fact, mgp has gotten there. They're pulling back out of that market of providing this for other folks. So it's going to be mostly in-house. Now that they're going to start really focusing on, is that going to affect the? I mean, if they stop doing it, people are going to be like well, either we have to fold or have a distillery, like that's not a. I mean, how much of those. It's hard, it's hard 's hard. It could change. It could change the way. Yeah, it could change a lot of stuff. Huh, well, that's gets me excited, actually. No, and you know what I? I've had this before, but I'm gonna, we're gonna go through it again, but it makes sense. The quality, the control of the quality that that they obviously have, um, really comes through in this one. Yeah, so I've not tried it, so you haven't through it. Oh, dude, it is fantastic. I bought a bottle. You did, yeah, and it wasn't hard to get. Oh, that's right, cause I've got a. I've got what they would call a honey hole. Oh, I thought that was a drug. No, honey hole is like what the heck was that? What Was that supposed to? I don't know why we just started crawling, but here we are. Was that supposed to stop me from talking? I mean, it worked, it did work, it did. I was scared. You told me early on I have to cut you. Oh, that's true, that's how you're gonna do it. Okay, it's like it's like. It's like you're trying to scare you could. You could you sample just that noise, whatever that is, and anytime you find yourself talking too much, we're just gonna hit that button and it's good. It sounds like the noise you make when you're going out at night and it's dark and you're scared. But you have to take the trash out, but you're worried there's a raccoon in your trash and so you make that noise, thinking that that's gonna scare the raccoon. Ah, it doesn't do anything. The raccoon is gonna rip your face off if it's there. But usually you luck out. Usually you luck out. I have no idea what you're talking about. You do this. Yes, go outside. I'm the crazy guy that's like hep, hap, hap, hap. That's how I get rid of raccoons when I go out to my trash. You know how Amy gets rid of them. Funny story we're camping one time with our friends and we come out of the tent, like at night, because we can hear like there's a rustling happening outside of the tent. Oh good, outside the tent, outside the tent, there's a rustling happening. Okay, and we, not inside the tent, just flashlights on right, got it. There's a raccoon sitting on the camp chair near the fire pit eating out of a bag of Doritos, just chilling, just eating out of the bag, and Amy like go on, get now, go on, go on, get. What is it? Southern child or something? It's how she grew up in the sticks like this, and I guess that's what you are from the sticks, that's how you get rid of animals. Go on, they understand that. I remember my aunt in Georgia would say quit, quit, quit, quit. That makes sense. That was quit Anyways. Anyways, it came back. It didn't go on and get. No, it didn't. It's like give me another bag. So she's like all right, I got another bag for you. Let's just leave that out there. That's awesome. Good for that guy. He's living his best life. He's probably dead now. If I hit him on the way out, yeah, yeah, oh, oh well, no, it didn't. I saw one on the ground earlier today. It was like it was dead. Anyway, honey hole, don't call me, don't name, call me Found this thing. Like there are cases and cases. Oh, really, 35 bucks. Next time you see one, pick one up for me. Okay, I got one in the car, really. No, oh, liar, alright, why. One up for me. Okay, I got one in the car, really. No, oh, liar, all right, why you already have one. Oh, and that's gone. It's good, I would. I mean, I have two bottles of it. No, I'm already. I only have one left. I brought the other one to my office. Okay, oh, fancy, fancy, I have an, I have it's. So it's so inexpensive and good that I have one at home and one at the orifice. What are you? What are you getting from the smell? A lot of wheat. Okay, yeah, I don't know, man, could I a little bit of like it's, there's a little bit of corn, they're just, they're just sweet. You know what? Maybe it's, maybe it was just this burp that I had, but does it not smell a little bit like root beer? Yeah, no, you're right, like when root beer loses its fizz and you just get that syrup. So it's like a caramel, brown sugar, but it has a spicyness to it. Would that be the barley? No, that would be the rye, probably more the rye man. Whatever they're doing down there at MGP in Lawrenceville, is it Lawrenceville, indiana? Wherever they are crushing it right now, it's really good. I haven't had very many Penelope offerings I think I've only had but what I've had has been very impressive. This weeded the creme brulee pretty good, it was good. Yeah, the Havana is out of this world. We tried that one. We should review it. We should record that one. We should review that one. We should, we should, we should, we should record that. We should review that one. Yeah, uh, I'm dying. Is it lawrenceburg? It's lawrenceburg, indiana, wow, I think. Go indiana. They are more than corn, except for the corn that's in it. But I mean it's not, but there's more than corn in it. So, but it's mostly corn. It's mostly corn. Yeah, there's, it's got to be mostly, it's got to be mostly corn, but then, like, it's corn, and then it's wheat, and then that's the other stuff. But, yeah, and this is weeded. So what is a weeded mean? It means is it finished or backfilled with? I don't, I never understood. It just means there's a higher wheat, yes, profile in the. Uh, it's just it's a weeded bourbon, so it has a lot of wheat. It's bourbon, so it's still 51% corn. Oh duh, no wonder you're looking at me weird when you're like Matt, what grains for this bourbon? And you're like, and I hadn't said corn, right, you should have led with wheat, corn, rye, and then, guest on the last one, I mean, yeah, okay, so now tasting it, reminding myself because it's been a few weeks since I've had it. I can't believe it's already been eight minutes, nine minutes, and you are just realizing that you didn't say corn. No, I'm a moron, no, no, I'm dumb. Oh yeah, totally stupid. Uh, yeah, you know it. I, I do get a little bit of that corn on there, obviously, but, um, yeah, it has a little bit of that sweetness to it and I think to me that's where I feel like the barley would kind of come through. Yeah, um, right, I mean, I guess, but rye has some sweetness, it really does, I think. I think I've been shocked out of the ryes that we've tried on this show and even anywhere else. I've been shocked at how sweet they actually can be. Yeah, they don't just have to be spicy. Nope, there's more than just spicy in rye. There's more than just spicy in rye, indiana. Ooh, is that a place it should be? I don't know. I feel I'm a little, I'm exhausted today. I'm a little. I'm not. No, not. Did you not sleep well? Oh, dude, I went. I've been editing. I'm not complaining. I love the work I'm doing. Of course, it's a lot of work, but I was up really late, yeah, just because things like we're doing a lot and so editing multiple shows at a time, and I was up to like two, 20. So I just did not sleep well, but I just don't. Yeah, typically I have a hard time falling asleep. Typically, what's your typical bedtime routine? Do you have a routine, first of all, do you have a routine? I have a routine. Do I do it every time? Not necessarily Got it, obviously. The typical brush your teeth, floss, floss, brush that order. Do it Floss first, then brush. No, it's not. Yeah, that's what. Then brush? No, it's not. Yeah, nope, that's what the dentist said. No, because when you floss, the dentist told me to brush and then floss, so after you brush. If we're going to keep talking about this, we got to figure this out. No, oh, I would like to move on from the dental routine and get into the rest of the routine. Oh, yeah, no, forget the dentist. Okay, nobody likes a dentist. No, no, the routine, though. Like if I sometimes I'm just so tired, I just go to bed, right, yeah, by the way, that is my bedtime, just go to bed, yeah, well, it feels like it should make sense, like that should be obvious, but there's something like I like to have, like I like I. You know, I don't ask for much, I work hard. Okay, I want to be pampered here a little bit, you go. Okay, I feel that I was working up late till 220 in the morning and I want to have, I want to go to bed, but I want it to be on my terms I 220 and not just 230. Why were we? I was like you, what 220 is the cutoff? No, I just mean you could tell the story at any time. Oh, the story 221, 222, something more in there. I was up to 220 when I finally stopped Because I remember looking at the clock Phil, I don't round up for my stories, I can't do that math it was almost three. It was like but then where do you stop? Oh, it was almost three. It was like almost. But then where do you stop? I was almost three. I mean, it's kind of like four. I'm still awake, maybe it was. It was. I was up after two, probably like. Probably like 220. I was done between 2 or 230, so30. So the dentist? No, no, so I was up. But here's the thing I like Okay, if I'm going to go to sleep, I know if I'm hot, forget it, okay. So I have to be cool, like, not cool. Obviously I'm cool. I know we get it, okay. So I can't be hot, yeah, be hot. Yeah, uh, cannot have clothes. No clothes, boxers done, just that's it. Just boxers, yeah. Boxer briefs, nope, too. Constricting, I agree, I just I'm like I don't. I don't even like wearing clothes in general. So, but you have to, apparently, whatever. I just don't have enough money for all those tickets to keep paying. So I've compromised and I'll wear clothes. It's your house, yeah, it's my house, I'll do whatever I want. If this podcast wasn't video, let me tell you no. So I have to sleep. No jammies, no flannel, none of that stuff. Even in the, especially in the summer, but even in the winter. Wait, wait, what Flannel. Winter, wait, wait, what, um, flannel? Are you a monster or do you take your socks off? Oh, I take my socks off. Sleep with socks. I mean, I know we're not animals. Animals sleep with socks because they have to, because it's their fur, but we're we don't know, unless you're a hobbit like no, yeah. So even in the winter, though I I prefer not flannel sheets, of course, like I want. Yeah, it's, it'd be chilly for a little bit, but, but when you're under the covers it feels nice. Um, so I just have a lot of things like yeah, you know, but here's the. I got a couple things. I brought some props because I wanted to. I I had a feeling, yeah, I had a feeling you were going to tell me or you're going to ask me about this. I just it's like a sixth sense. I feel like and I was right on man, I just had a feeling we were going to talk about this. Yeah, okay, so I brought, I wanted to show you what I, what I look like, you know, going to sleep with on them. I'll keep the clothes on for the sake of the viewer, everybody, everybody. I don't want to see this. So Should I close my eyes? No, first, you gotta, I'm gonna close my eyes. No, you don't need to close your eyes. So I have my, my tooth, not my tooth. Oh, this is uh, what is this called retainer? Yes, yeah, it's a. Uh, you know I grind the teeth. I woke up oh, it's a mouth guard, mouth guard. I woke up one day. I was like. I was like, ah, oh, that's the worst, right, like you did it one time and bought a mouth guard. I did it a couple times and I had had invisalign and so I had already had those and I was wearing those and then I had like had to get a tooth removed and all that anyway. So, but then I was like I did it once. Yeah, I was like I can't, I can't, oh, I can't even thinking about it now, I can't even talk about it. Oh, it's the worst, right? All that noise when the kids do it. Oh my gosh, when they grind, oh, that like little, like squeak, like no, like the like. Forget the chinese water torture. You want to get something out of somebody, out of a squirt. What's the noise I'm making? No, like, have a kid grind their teeth and throw rice on the floor. That'll make anybody tell the truth, because rice is a pain. Rice is a pain to pick up. Pick up that rice. And where's the? I thought it was like Hostages, like kneeling on rice. I thought that's what you're sure. Yeah, dry rice anyway. So I got this in. So I put this in. We're gonna, you're gonna see, why are we throwing rice on the floor? I don't know. The kids throw rice in the floor. Get it together. This is what I look like. Guys, I got this. Oh, sorry, I got this. Okay, good, so I already sound like an idiot, right? Sorry, guys, all right, then you put the mouth guard in. Then I have a variety of sleep masks. So this is the first one. This is a. If you're listening, what do you see here, phil, can you describe? I got to take? I'll take this out. No, no, no, keep it in. Please, please, leave. This is a black and red silk sleep mask. I would say that it is a red sleep mask that is black, garnished with black lace Black lace, something you would find Garnished. Garnished, yeah, I think that's what they say. Decorated, something you would find on the cover of some sort of romance novel. Yeah, I would say that that is. Yes, this was the original. This is OG sleep mask mask. Okay, so I would wear this. It looks like that's been through the ringer. It has well, literally, it's been through an actual ringer. I wear it, sleep like a baby, okay, so, okay, is it a? Do you watch it's? Oh, yeah, no, this has been through the watch many times, okay, okay, now, that just wasn't working for me, so I had to upgrade. I happen to have this. This is a winter ear cover. Yeah, I've seen those. Right, but it is more manly. So I feel better about myself in my room by myself, and so I put this on. Now, you have to do it this way. You can't do it like this. You have to do it this way. Now you have to use the big side. Yeah, right, so I put it on and it has this little slot here, perfect for your nose, it fits perfectly and it also acts as some sort of ear muff, because I think that's what it is you can't hear. You can't hear so if someone's snoring or if a kid's like ow, I fell out of my bed, you can't hear it. Okay, can't hear. So if someone's snoring or if a kid's like ow, I fell out of my bed, you can't hear it. Okay, you're good, if somebody breaks in, you're none the wiser, all right, but this again, light coming through, you need more pressure on here, so it's not going to work. So I happened to find this. I thought, well, we got this sleep mask, this is. I thought, well, we got this sleep mask, this is 3.0. All right, now, this one has cushions on, uh, the inside it's got a little slot for the nose, a little gel cushion oh yeah, gel cushions and uh. So I got this one. Okay, now you put this on, you're ready to go. You can tighten it, you can loosen it, depending on how big your noggin is, it doesn't matter. Pretty darn good, however, not a lot of light coming through. However, as luck would have it, eczema breakout. The islets started having eczema on them Because you haven't washed that. Well, no, I and I would wash, you could, yeah, if I could, you can't. So I thought, why not combine the best of both worlds? So you have, you have version two of the ims. You put on, and then, and then, yeah, you got to move that. What it's not, it's not at the center. There you go, okay, you got on. And then, and then, yeah, you gotta move that over there, it's not, it's not at the center. There you go, okay, you got version two, and then you cover it with version three. Okay, and look, if eczema is acting up, I have these. So I put cream on my hands. I am in bed. I put cream on my hands, okay, and I put these bad boys on and these cream on my hands, okay, and I put these bad boys on and these are what I call my mickey mouse or my michael jackson gloves or mime gloves. They are cotton, 100 cotton. They. I don't know who sewed them probably a blind person because they don't fit. If you flip them, oh, they're on the wrong hand. No, they're not you. I think you, you might have sewn them while wearing your mask. I might as well have. I can tell that one of them is clearly on backwards because your thumb is in the pinky. If I switch them, oh, backwards, yeah, well, this is how I look. Now, imagine me. I want you just to picture me. Get this image in your head. I'm in my boxers, that's it. I'm in my boxer and I'm laying there like this. Is this how you lay? No, I can't lay on my back. No, I don't know. I think terrorists sleep on their back. I don't know how people sleep on their back. You can't sleep on your back. Like corpses sleep on their back. That's what it's like. I gotta sleep on my side. So I'm on this side, I'm on that side. Now to add, to add to this what I will also do I will put headphones in and I will listen to asmr and fall asleep. Wow, so I, that's yeah, that's it, that's it, that's it. Yep, this is dangerous. Oh, feels different with gloves on. That's what? Yeah, how's the smell with? How does it smell? Oh, wow, hey, wait a minute. Now you've taken out a couple of, you've taken out a couple of senses. Oh, I don, I don't have sight. You don't have sight. You don't have feeling. I can't hear. You can't really hear you. Also, I don't know if you can taste that much with the thing in your mouth. No, it's not on my tongue, phil. You don't have taste buds on your teeth. You do have gums, that's true. Okay, it went into the. It went into the mouth guard. Hold on a second. It's going to be in the mouth guard all night. It's in the mouth guard. Oh, I'm going to sleep like a baby tonight. Yeah, you are. Well, that is a thing. I spare the audience. That is a thing. I spare the audience. That is a thing. Wow, matt, I never thought. You see why I have anxiety, phil, sleep like that. That's why you have anxiety. So you could say I'm a little high maintenance. But Did you have all that stuff with you when we went to Salt Lake City? Not the mouth guard, and I didn't have this, but I had the other one. Oh boy, that has seen this. Looks like it was the star of those romance novels and it needs to be. It needs to be retired, retired to be. It needs to be retired. Retired, yes, that needs to go away. But this, wow, this is. This is good to be retired. We need to find more of this. Yeah, this is really really good. I don't feel like I should sit with my legs crossed after doing that demonstration. I think you're okay. Okay, I don't think anybody's questioning anything at this point. Okay, I think we all already know exactly what we need to. No, this one would certainly garner the whiskey bits stamp of approval. Whiskey bits Bam Stamp of approval. Dang it, I'm going to do that. I did it once. You're welcome, thank you. Thanks, phil. Thanks for me buying this whiskey. Oh, you're welcome. Thank you, thanks, phil. Thanks for me buying this whiskey. Oh, you're welcome. I will be sure to get you a bottle this week and bring it to you. I can't wait to go to sleep tonight. Cheers, you should try the sleep mask, though. For real, it's really good. No, no, I'm good, okay. Hey, thanks for tuning in to Whiskey Bits. 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